Jasmine Vo discussed the experience of interacting with the song, 5AM, by Cá Hồi Hoang
Interview Summary
For the study, the participant chose to talk about a Vietnamese song by a band called Co Hoi Hoang. The song is about a girl leaving her home and her thinking about all those things she’s leaving behind. The participant related and sympathized with this song because they felt the same way when coming to the US from Vietnam. They first interacted with this artwork when they were in high school by finding it on YouTube. At first glance, they enjoyed the melody of it but later, decided to pay more attention to the lyrics. The participant felt as if the message was making a lot of sense in their life because when they want to leave something, they remember that they will keep missing the past and what was left behind. By having the opportunity of going to one of the band’s concerts, they realized they enjoy dancing to the music and having nothing to hide. They believe that with this song, the band had the intention to tell other young adults that they have had the same difficult feelings they are going through.
As they’ve grown older, they realized that they have had different feelings when listening to the song in the different stages of their life. When they were younger, they used to think that what they missed was their ex-boyfriend but when they grew older, they realized what they miss now is their family. When listening to the song they did not have any thoughts about the meaning of life or any spiritual experiences. However, they have recently discovered Christianity and feel less sad because of believing in a religion.
Interview Transcript
Introduction
Interviewer: In this interview, we are interested in asking you to tell us about interacting with an artwork created by another artist. We're going to ask you to describe this experience in detail. Do you have any questions? We like you to focus on your interaction with a particular artwork that someone else created. This may be a famous artwork or a work that's not well known. It could be an artwork created by anybody other than you. The artwork could be from any of the following domains: Painting, drawing, sculptures, stained glass, installation, music, songs, dance, performance, art, film, literature, theater, fashion, crafts, mixed media, furniture design, architecture, interior design, plastic arts, or any other art that we did not mention. The artwork does not necessarily have to be the most important to you, but it should be meaningful and emotionally salient. It helps if your memories are good, but you don't have to remember everything. Please choose your artwork, and then tell me what it is.
Participant: So now I’m gonna send you like an artwork?
Interviewer: And you have it and can screen share it, or somehow share it on the screen, that would be helpful.
Participant: Okay, so, it can be a song, right? Oh, oh, it's not, um., I think you're preventing me from sharing my screen if I’m not wrong.
Interviewer: Try now.
Participant: Um, Okay. So, this one is um. Do you want to listen to it? Or
Description
Interviewer: Um, if you can. Just yeah, you can just tell me about it. And um tell me important details of it.
Participant: So, this is a Vietnamese song, uh, because I'm Vietnamese. So, this band name Ca Hoi Hoang, which is like wild Salmon um and equals White Salmon. Um. This is like an Indie band in my country, and they are very famous. Uh, so, the song is just about um. A girl who, trying to leave her house at five am and when she is leaving, she just thinks about everything that she left behind like the cats, her room, and all that. Um. The reason why I feel somehow sympathize with this artwork is because um, when I leave um Vietnam to come to the US, I just kind of feel the same way. I just feel like um sometimes there are very little things, like I don’t own a cat or anything, um sometimes just feels like very little details in the room in my old room. It's just um make me feel like I don't want to go. Yeah, although like, although, like, I believe that I will have like of new things, a better things kinda um here. But it's just a feeling that I want to stay because of little, little things. So, um and I used two concerts of this band group and listen to them singing those song like um directly. I just feel like a lot of Vietnamese people just like uh at my age they really enjoy the um, this band’s songs I don't really think people or even me, really understand, or take our time to looking at the lyrics or something like that. It's just like um. We…we’re just feeling it without even looking at the lyrics, and I feel like whenever I…going to this band concert is just having the vibe that those artists are they are really living in the moment and they’re really passionate with their artwork and that passion just make everybody there just kind of respect their artwork, which is the songs and most um Vietnamese teenage. They know about these songs, and they can sing the songs.
Process of Interacting
What led up to the interaction? What motivated you to explore this piece?
Interviewer: So how did you find the song, just because it was popular, or…?
Participant: Um, when I was in high school, my, some of my friends uh they heard about this band, and they keep talking about this kind of music like Indie music, and it's just like it's spread out, and then everyone know it.
When and where did the experience happen? Who was involved besides you (if anyone)?
Interviewer: So, when and where did you first…you can either talk about your experience interacting with it for the first time, or when you heard it in concert, whichever makes more sense for you to um answer the questions.
Participant: I think I will talk about the first time I listened to this song, but I’m, I don't like remember clearly what…which time I just remember that, like I randomly pop into the songs on YouTube and um it just like I think the lyrics of the song is not like a very noticeable thing, because, like I don't really listen to what the singers sing, but I just um. I just feel like the melody of it is very catchy, and then, when I take a look like there are some verses, that is just pop up like um, the sunset that this girl missed, uh her cats like that is like a very pop-up thing for me, and that verse is just makes me feel sympathized just by that verse um. So, after I randomly run into it. But I already know this band, before I just feel like um, this is gonna be a good song. And then I start looking at this lyrics, and then I know the meaning, and then I enjoy it more. And then, when I go to the concert, I just feels like a lot of people feel the same way…like this song is like the most popular song. Everyone requests this song to be sang in the concert.
Interviewer: All right.
Can you describe any high points, low points or challenges, or turning points along the way?
Interviewer: Can you describe any high points, low points or turning points along the way of like listening to the song. Different emotions you felt throughout um interacting with it.
Participant: Um, like I said before, the verse like this, when the songs talked about uh the girl leaving her home at five am. And then starting to think of her cats and everything she left behind. It's like um. I don't really know why I kind of sympathize with it, because, you know, I I've just left my home for like the first time, and it's just two months ago, but I already know the song for a long time. Um, but I feel like It's a feeling of leaving a lot of things. It doesn't necessarily mean that, like a girl who, going to another place or leaving her parents, or something like that, it just can be like a girl breaking up with her boyfriend or trying to find something new. But then, when she leaves, of course she knows that she'll go into a better place. But she still missed the old thing. But she knows that it’s worth it to leave. So, I just feel like that message is making a lot of sense in my life. Like sometimes I want to um. I want to leave something for good, but I’ll keep missing about the past. Um, yeah. So, I, I feel like those part about the cats uh about when the girls just remember about the old things that she left behind. It's really be the my most like favorite parts of the song.
Let's talk about the impact of the artwork on you and your life.
What did you learn from the process of interacting with the artwork? Did you learn anything about yourself?
Interviewer: Let's talk about the impact of the music on you and your life. Now I know you kind of already touched on these. So, if you can expand, that's, that's great. But if not, I totally understand, and we can move on. But what did you learn from the process of listening to the song. And did you learn anything about yourself from it?
Participant: Mhm, um. Learning about myself, I think. Okay, so, before um. I don't think I’m that kind of person who really like uh enjoys showing off showing off my movement while I listen to a song and like, but like I, I've always been feeling that I want to dance, you know, like I really want to learn how to dance, and I really want to be more confident in expressing my movement while I listen to songs, and, like my first time going to this concert of this band is like literally like the first time that I really enjoy my movement um while listening to music, because, like first of all, like everyone do that, everyone around me, just you know, just doing random stuff, and I feel like you know what like there is nothing to hide, um but I really do feel like I enjoy dancing and trying to express my movement while listening to music. So, that is something that is special about the sound.
Do you think that the artist intended the work to affect others or the world in any particular ways?
Interviewer: Do you think that the artists intended for the work to affect others or the world in any particular ways?
Participant: I think for this band, yes, because most of their work are kind of deep um, because, like I think, in every country they have the same thing. But in Vietnam we have like mainstream songs, and like a more underground songs. Um, those underground bands, they will try to deliver something like they will try to reflect their feelings throughout their songs, or they can't genuinely like tell their stories um rather than like mainstream songs. It will be a little bit more nonsense, but it will be more catchy so, I think this band, their song is not for everyone, but it's just what I think. My generation will vibe with um, because it really does talk about the reality, is talk about some hard feelings that we have to go through, which is not always reflect in like mainstream songs. Um. So, I feel like uh those, those artists. They really have the intention to tell people that they are there, and they are also going through the same hard feelings. Um, especially I think they target to, like, young people, young adults.
Did your experience with the artwork affect your understanding of others or “the world?”
Interviewer: Did your experience with the song affect your understanding of others or the world.
Participant: Um, I don’t really think so. It's just like me feeling sympathize with the song, so I think it's more like I learn more about myself. Um, I don't really think that…sometimes I have a feeling that I doubt that people around me feel the same way with me, like what if, like those people around me, they are just like robots, and they don't feel anything like I, I never know I cannot know um. So, like those songs um like this. I just feel like it's beneficial me in a way that I learn more about myself. But I'm not sure what people think.
When some people think about themselves, they see some parts of themselves as deeply true, real, or authentic.
If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about your true nature during the process of interacting with the artwork? Did you have any insights about your own authentic (or inauthentic) self?
Interviewer: When some people think about themselves, they see some parts of themselves as deeply true, real or authentic. If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about your true nature during the process of interacting with this song. Did you have any insights about your own authentic or inauthentic self?
Participant: Mhm, um. It feels like each stage of listening to this song makes me feel a little bit different um like for example, when I was younger, when I was younger…Um, for example, when I have just like, break up with my boyfriend, um, then I'll listen to the songs and feel sympathized in a way that, like a girl just leaving her boyfriend for good and she misses everything uh, that will be…That will be basically what I think. But now, like when my life change a little bit like I, I don't have boyfriends, and I don't um. I don't care about anything but my family. So, it's gonna be like a different thing like. So, the thing that the girl missed for me will change in the past I will think that she missed something else. But now for me, I'll…I'll think that she miss her family, or something like that, because I'm missing my family, and I feel the same way.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Some people believe in ultimate meaning. This is defined as deep, underlying meaning that transcends subjective, personal meaning. It is about the nature of existence and identity, and it may include ideas about the significance of suffering, as well as spirituality.
If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about ultimate meaning during the process of interacting with the artwork?
Interviewer: Some people believe in ultimate meaning. This is defined as deep underlying meaning that transcends subjective personal meaning. It is about the nature of existence and identity, and it may include ideas about the significance of suffering as well as spirituality. If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about ultimate meaning during the process of interacting with the song?
Participant: Hmm, I have to be honest that I don’t think it is that deep I just think that it is a song that I can feel sympathized. Um, and like, you know, like if I’m sad or something like that, I will want to listen to sad songs um. If I'm happy, then I will be less likely to listen to sad songs. So, it's just like um a thing that I use to feel like I'm not alone in that state. It's not really a thing that will tell me about myself, because I feel like sometimes um, even when artists they have a lot of experience in their life, and all that their life are still different from mine. Like just like reading a book or listening to a song. Their experience, they can go through a lot of things, but it's not necessarily being the same with my experience. So, yeah, I just feel like it is a thing that I use to feel sympathize, not reflecting a lot of things about myself. Um, about the meaning of my life.
Some people believe or perceive a reality beyond the physical or material world. This may include religious beliefs/experiences (such as perceived interactions with God) but also may include mystical or transcendent experiences, or interaction with spirits.
Did you have any of these kinds of experiences during the interaction with the artwork?
Interviewer: Right, yeah, that makes it makes perfect sense. Some people believe or perceive a reality beyond the physical or material world. This may include religious beliefs or experiences such as preceding interactions with God, but also may include mystical or transcendent experiences or interactions with spirits. Did you have any of any kind of these experiences during the interaction with the song?
Participant: Um, so, I don't think, it is it is through this song. But I think it is in the same period, like in the past, I, in the past, like about a couple of months ago. I used to be very into Christianity, and my, my parents is not, is not religious at all. They don't believe in anything. They just um because Vietnamese people tend to have like no religion, and they will largely like, uh think about our ancestor as our, I don't know, we will just believe in our ancestor. We don't believe in any religion. But like a couple months ago I just really wanted to be a Christian and I just end up like buying Bibles and listening to, listening to YouTube videos related to uh Christianity every single day. So, I, I don't really think it is like a connection between all two of these. But um, but I just feel like when I believe in a religion, I will be less likely to feel sad, and I will less likely to search for songs that have like a bad vibes or bad meanings or something like that.
Interviewer: So, with this particular, you didn't experience anything like spiritual when listening to this correct? Even if you did not have the experience, you may have felt some sort of inspiration, guidance, or encouragement from the nonphysical or supernatural, or may have felt some sense of presence or connection. Did you have any kinds of these experiences during um your interaction with the song?
Participant: Hmm, um, I don't really think so.
Why did you choose this one? (Specialness)
Interviewer: Was there anything about this particular song that distinguished it from others, and made it particularly special that you haven't touched on yet?
Participant: Hmm. Like normally, I'm the type of person who will listen to a song that I like until I get bored of it, and never listen to it again. But this song hits a little bit different, like um, even though I listen to it a lot of time every time I listen to it I still feel the same way, and I still want to dance, you know, like um I, I think it's very, very rare for me to have a song like that, because normally I'll just get bored of it and but this song is different somehow.
Interviewer: That was great. Thank you.
For the study, the participant chose to talk about a Vietnamese song by a band called Co Hoi Hoang. The song is about a girl leaving her home and her thinking about all those things she’s leaving behind. The participant related and sympathized with this song because they felt the same way when coming to the US from Vietnam. They first interacted with this artwork when they were in high school by finding it on YouTube. At first glance, they enjoyed the melody of it but later, decided to pay more attention to the lyrics. The participant felt as if the message was making a lot of sense in their life because when they want to leave something, they remember that they will keep missing the past and what was left behind. By having the opportunity of going to one of the band’s concerts, they realized they enjoy dancing to the music and having nothing to hide. They believe that with this song, the band had the intention to tell other young adults that they have had the same difficult feelings they are going through.
As they’ve grown older, they realized that they have had different feelings when listening to the song in the different stages of their life. When they were younger, they used to think that what they missed was their ex-boyfriend but when they grew older, they realized what they miss now is their family. When listening to the song they did not have any thoughts about the meaning of life or any spiritual experiences. However, they have recently discovered Christianity and feel less sad because of believing in a religion.
Interview Transcript
Introduction
Interviewer: In this interview, we are interested in asking you to tell us about interacting with an artwork created by another artist. We're going to ask you to describe this experience in detail. Do you have any questions? We like you to focus on your interaction with a particular artwork that someone else created. This may be a famous artwork or a work that's not well known. It could be an artwork created by anybody other than you. The artwork could be from any of the following domains: Painting, drawing, sculptures, stained glass, installation, music, songs, dance, performance, art, film, literature, theater, fashion, crafts, mixed media, furniture design, architecture, interior design, plastic arts, or any other art that we did not mention. The artwork does not necessarily have to be the most important to you, but it should be meaningful and emotionally salient. It helps if your memories are good, but you don't have to remember everything. Please choose your artwork, and then tell me what it is.
Participant: So now I’m gonna send you like an artwork?
Interviewer: And you have it and can screen share it, or somehow share it on the screen, that would be helpful.
Participant: Okay, so, it can be a song, right? Oh, oh, it's not, um., I think you're preventing me from sharing my screen if I’m not wrong.
Interviewer: Try now.
Participant: Um, Okay. So, this one is um. Do you want to listen to it? Or
Description
Interviewer: Um, if you can. Just yeah, you can just tell me about it. And um tell me important details of it.
Participant: So, this is a Vietnamese song, uh, because I'm Vietnamese. So, this band name Ca Hoi Hoang, which is like wild Salmon um and equals White Salmon. Um. This is like an Indie band in my country, and they are very famous. Uh, so, the song is just about um. A girl who, trying to leave her house at five am and when she is leaving, she just thinks about everything that she left behind like the cats, her room, and all that. Um. The reason why I feel somehow sympathize with this artwork is because um, when I leave um Vietnam to come to the US, I just kind of feel the same way. I just feel like um sometimes there are very little things, like I don’t own a cat or anything, um sometimes just feels like very little details in the room in my old room. It's just um make me feel like I don't want to go. Yeah, although like, although, like, I believe that I will have like of new things, a better things kinda um here. But it's just a feeling that I want to stay because of little, little things. So, um and I used two concerts of this band group and listen to them singing those song like um directly. I just feel like a lot of Vietnamese people just like uh at my age they really enjoy the um, this band’s songs I don't really think people or even me, really understand, or take our time to looking at the lyrics or something like that. It's just like um. We…we’re just feeling it without even looking at the lyrics, and I feel like whenever I…going to this band concert is just having the vibe that those artists are they are really living in the moment and they’re really passionate with their artwork and that passion just make everybody there just kind of respect their artwork, which is the songs and most um Vietnamese teenage. They know about these songs, and they can sing the songs.
Process of Interacting
What led up to the interaction? What motivated you to explore this piece?
Interviewer: So how did you find the song, just because it was popular, or…?
Participant: Um, when I was in high school, my, some of my friends uh they heard about this band, and they keep talking about this kind of music like Indie music, and it's just like it's spread out, and then everyone know it.
When and where did the experience happen? Who was involved besides you (if anyone)?
Interviewer: So, when and where did you first…you can either talk about your experience interacting with it for the first time, or when you heard it in concert, whichever makes more sense for you to um answer the questions.
Participant: I think I will talk about the first time I listened to this song, but I’m, I don't like remember clearly what…which time I just remember that, like I randomly pop into the songs on YouTube and um it just like I think the lyrics of the song is not like a very noticeable thing, because, like I don't really listen to what the singers sing, but I just um. I just feel like the melody of it is very catchy, and then, when I take a look like there are some verses, that is just pop up like um, the sunset that this girl missed, uh her cats like that is like a very pop-up thing for me, and that verse is just makes me feel sympathized just by that verse um. So, after I randomly run into it. But I already know this band, before I just feel like um, this is gonna be a good song. And then I start looking at this lyrics, and then I know the meaning, and then I enjoy it more. And then, when I go to the concert, I just feels like a lot of people feel the same way…like this song is like the most popular song. Everyone requests this song to be sang in the concert.
Interviewer: All right.
Can you describe any high points, low points or challenges, or turning points along the way?
Interviewer: Can you describe any high points, low points or turning points along the way of like listening to the song. Different emotions you felt throughout um interacting with it.
Participant: Um, like I said before, the verse like this, when the songs talked about uh the girl leaving her home at five am. And then starting to think of her cats and everything she left behind. It's like um. I don't really know why I kind of sympathize with it, because, you know, I I've just left my home for like the first time, and it's just two months ago, but I already know the song for a long time. Um, but I feel like It's a feeling of leaving a lot of things. It doesn't necessarily mean that, like a girl who, going to another place or leaving her parents, or something like that, it just can be like a girl breaking up with her boyfriend or trying to find something new. But then, when she leaves, of course she knows that she'll go into a better place. But she still missed the old thing. But she knows that it’s worth it to leave. So, I just feel like that message is making a lot of sense in my life. Like sometimes I want to um. I want to leave something for good, but I’ll keep missing about the past. Um, yeah. So, I, I feel like those part about the cats uh about when the girls just remember about the old things that she left behind. It's really be the my most like favorite parts of the song.
Let's talk about the impact of the artwork on you and your life.
What did you learn from the process of interacting with the artwork? Did you learn anything about yourself?
Interviewer: Let's talk about the impact of the music on you and your life. Now I know you kind of already touched on these. So, if you can expand, that's, that's great. But if not, I totally understand, and we can move on. But what did you learn from the process of listening to the song. And did you learn anything about yourself from it?
Participant: Mhm, um. Learning about myself, I think. Okay, so, before um. I don't think I’m that kind of person who really like uh enjoys showing off showing off my movement while I listen to a song and like, but like I, I've always been feeling that I want to dance, you know, like I really want to learn how to dance, and I really want to be more confident in expressing my movement while I listen to songs, and, like my first time going to this concert of this band is like literally like the first time that I really enjoy my movement um while listening to music, because, like first of all, like everyone do that, everyone around me, just you know, just doing random stuff, and I feel like you know what like there is nothing to hide, um but I really do feel like I enjoy dancing and trying to express my movement while listening to music. So, that is something that is special about the sound.
Do you think that the artist intended the work to affect others or the world in any particular ways?
Interviewer: Do you think that the artists intended for the work to affect others or the world in any particular ways?
Participant: I think for this band, yes, because most of their work are kind of deep um, because, like I think, in every country they have the same thing. But in Vietnam we have like mainstream songs, and like a more underground songs. Um, those underground bands, they will try to deliver something like they will try to reflect their feelings throughout their songs, or they can't genuinely like tell their stories um rather than like mainstream songs. It will be a little bit more nonsense, but it will be more catchy so, I think this band, their song is not for everyone, but it's just what I think. My generation will vibe with um, because it really does talk about the reality, is talk about some hard feelings that we have to go through, which is not always reflect in like mainstream songs. Um. So, I feel like uh those, those artists. They really have the intention to tell people that they are there, and they are also going through the same hard feelings. Um, especially I think they target to, like, young people, young adults.
Did your experience with the artwork affect your understanding of others or “the world?”
Interviewer: Did your experience with the song affect your understanding of others or the world.
Participant: Um, I don’t really think so. It's just like me feeling sympathize with the song, so I think it's more like I learn more about myself. Um, I don't really think that…sometimes I have a feeling that I doubt that people around me feel the same way with me, like what if, like those people around me, they are just like robots, and they don't feel anything like I, I never know I cannot know um. So, like those songs um like this. I just feel like it's beneficial me in a way that I learn more about myself. But I'm not sure what people think.
When some people think about themselves, they see some parts of themselves as deeply true, real, or authentic.
If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about your true nature during the process of interacting with the artwork? Did you have any insights about your own authentic (or inauthentic) self?
Interviewer: When some people think about themselves, they see some parts of themselves as deeply true, real or authentic. If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about your true nature during the process of interacting with this song. Did you have any insights about your own authentic or inauthentic self?
Participant: Mhm, um. It feels like each stage of listening to this song makes me feel a little bit different um like for example, when I was younger, when I was younger…Um, for example, when I have just like, break up with my boyfriend, um, then I'll listen to the songs and feel sympathized in a way that, like a girl just leaving her boyfriend for good and she misses everything uh, that will be…That will be basically what I think. But now, like when my life change a little bit like I, I don't have boyfriends, and I don't um. I don't care about anything but my family. So, it's gonna be like a different thing like. So, the thing that the girl missed for me will change in the past I will think that she missed something else. But now for me, I'll…I'll think that she miss her family, or something like that, because I'm missing my family, and I feel the same way.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Some people believe in ultimate meaning. This is defined as deep, underlying meaning that transcends subjective, personal meaning. It is about the nature of existence and identity, and it may include ideas about the significance of suffering, as well as spirituality.
If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about ultimate meaning during the process of interacting with the artwork?
Interviewer: Some people believe in ultimate meaning. This is defined as deep underlying meaning that transcends subjective personal meaning. It is about the nature of existence and identity, and it may include ideas about the significance of suffering as well as spirituality. If this idea resonates with you, did you learn anything about ultimate meaning during the process of interacting with the song?
Participant: Hmm, I have to be honest that I don’t think it is that deep I just think that it is a song that I can feel sympathized. Um, and like, you know, like if I’m sad or something like that, I will want to listen to sad songs um. If I'm happy, then I will be less likely to listen to sad songs. So, it's just like um a thing that I use to feel like I'm not alone in that state. It's not really a thing that will tell me about myself, because I feel like sometimes um, even when artists they have a lot of experience in their life, and all that their life are still different from mine. Like just like reading a book or listening to a song. Their experience, they can go through a lot of things, but it's not necessarily being the same with my experience. So, yeah, I just feel like it is a thing that I use to feel sympathize, not reflecting a lot of things about myself. Um, about the meaning of my life.
Some people believe or perceive a reality beyond the physical or material world. This may include religious beliefs/experiences (such as perceived interactions with God) but also may include mystical or transcendent experiences, or interaction with spirits.
Did you have any of these kinds of experiences during the interaction with the artwork?
Interviewer: Right, yeah, that makes it makes perfect sense. Some people believe or perceive a reality beyond the physical or material world. This may include religious beliefs or experiences such as preceding interactions with God, but also may include mystical or transcendent experiences or interactions with spirits. Did you have any of any kind of these experiences during the interaction with the song?
Participant: Um, so, I don't think, it is it is through this song. But I think it is in the same period, like in the past, I, in the past, like about a couple of months ago. I used to be very into Christianity, and my, my parents is not, is not religious at all. They don't believe in anything. They just um because Vietnamese people tend to have like no religion, and they will largely like, uh think about our ancestor as our, I don't know, we will just believe in our ancestor. We don't believe in any religion. But like a couple months ago I just really wanted to be a Christian and I just end up like buying Bibles and listening to, listening to YouTube videos related to uh Christianity every single day. So, I, I don't really think it is like a connection between all two of these. But um, but I just feel like when I believe in a religion, I will be less likely to feel sad, and I will less likely to search for songs that have like a bad vibes or bad meanings or something like that.
Interviewer: So, with this particular, you didn't experience anything like spiritual when listening to this correct? Even if you did not have the experience, you may have felt some sort of inspiration, guidance, or encouragement from the nonphysical or supernatural, or may have felt some sense of presence or connection. Did you have any kinds of these experiences during um your interaction with the song?
Participant: Hmm, um, I don't really think so.
Why did you choose this one? (Specialness)
Interviewer: Was there anything about this particular song that distinguished it from others, and made it particularly special that you haven't touched on yet?
Participant: Hmm. Like normally, I'm the type of person who will listen to a song that I like until I get bored of it, and never listen to it again. But this song hits a little bit different, like um, even though I listen to it a lot of time every time I listen to it I still feel the same way, and I still want to dance, you know, like um I, I think it's very, very rare for me to have a song like that, because normally I'll just get bored of it and but this song is different somehow.
Interviewer: That was great. Thank you.
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